Am I Alone in my Disappointment?

shopgirl909 wrote:

Meegs82 wrote:

shopgirl909 wrote:

Meegs82 wrote:"Or, after Hero, Booth had back pain. Um...duh? But no, instead they make up some other excuse."

Actually, that was just because they changed the order in which they aired the episodes. The back pain wasn't caused by what happened with the Grave Digger. Fox is always messing with the airing of episodes. If they aren't part of the over-arcing plotline, they get moved around.

Uh, not according to Hart Hanson....

Ok, then what exactly did Hart say?

Hart says that while they film out of order, episodes air in the correct order. Fox may tell them to cut different things out of shows, or move the day of the week in which the shows air, but they do not change the order, unless they want to drop an episode (like they did in season 2 after VT).

My question would then be "when did he say this?" There was an issue with the episodes airing after the 6-week Holiday break. The original schedule had Fire In The Ice airing later and Hero In The Hold airing earlier or something like that, and then it all changed. We all talked about this and many of us were incredibly confused. I think it was even the week OF the epi that the new schedule came out and Fire In The Ice had been bumped up. We had all expected to see Hero, but it was changed. So, I'm not sure I would go by that statement entirely. I guess, my point is that I don't think the back pain was even SUPPOSED to be related to the GD in the first place.

First when I saw the S4 episodes I was very disappointed. Something was very off, all the murders were turned into some kind of comedy.
But when I watched the episodes again the other day I could enjoy them very well ...I just think that the first time I saw them then there was too little time past the whole Zach incident (which I still haven't forgive to Hart), but I do agree that science has been pushed to the background but the thing is that science was/is a vital part of the show and writers should manage the way to keep both in relationship development and science.
And please cut Sweets' screen time!
He gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much screentime compared to Angela for example!

I love Sweets and think they've murdered Angela's character so I don't mind.

Yes, they don't actually show the eps in order that they are shot. Sometimes they are shifted around, which leaves slight continuity errors.

i am so disappointed with the overall quality of episodes this season and especially with the way Fox is treating bones, that i'm really starting to lose interest in this show. which is incredibly sad, considering how much i used to love bones. but about 70 per cent of this season have been superficial, goofy and cheesy, there have hardly been any true emotions you can relate to, left alone interesting, suspenseful cases that actually make sense. i really miss the show i used to love so much over 3 seasons. and i find it really hard to get invested in a show that's aired only about every three weeks and has hardly any continuity anymore.

lena152 wrote:i am so disappointed with the overall quality of episodes this season and especially with the way Fox is treating bones, that i'm really starting to lose interest in this show. which is incredibly sad, considering how much i used to love bones. but about 70 per cent of this season have been superficial, goofy and cheesy, there have hardly been any true emotions you can relate to, left alone interesting, suspenseful cases that actually make sense. i really miss the show i used to love so much over 3 seasons. and i find it really hard to get invested in a show that's aired only about every three weeks and has hardly any continuity anymore.

You say that you don't like FOX, but then what you complain about has nothing to do with them...after all, the people at FOX do not write these silly episodes. While the show has gaps in between, season 3 had that issue as well because of the strike, yet the episodes were still great then.

oh i wasn't blaming fox for silly story-lines... i was saying that both the way schedules are handled and the writing are adding to my disappointment this season.

of course i am not going to quit watching bones, since i've been a fan for so long and i am still hoping for things to get better. the spoilers that are currently floating around aren't exactly boasting my spirits, but we'll see..

lena152 wrote:oh i wasn't blaming fox for silly story-lines... i was saying that both the way schedules are handled and the writing are adding to my disappointment this season.

of course i am not going to quit watching bones, since i've been a fan for so long and i am still hoping for things to get better. the spoilers that are currently floating around aren't exactly boasting my spirits, but we'll see..

Yes, the latest info frightens, more than helps.

When the writers and producers let the wheels fall off during the strike I had hoped for a recovery. Instead, the season resumed with very rushed and underdeveloped material and there was no need whatsoever to hasten the storyline underway, upon return from the strike. There was no need to wrap up the Gormagon case. It could have easily rolled into this season. The fact that the 2009 season was already going to be sliced and diced, randomly sorted, and seriously interrupted in the usual Fox scheduling fiasco certainly created a disjointed and dissonant series of episodes.

At the time of the Zach reveal as the apprentice, and subsequent experiments with attracting a random audience, all of the critical elements of the show have been shelved or lost. The attitude that fans would have to get over themselves has become the mantra for a series which has lost its way and cannot find balance.

This was supposed to be the season of character development and instead has become a stale and pale masquerade in contrast to previous seasons. The chemistry is bad, the science is bad, the behavior of the cast is quixotic. Booth began the season as a caricature of the ugly American abroad and then denigrated to a total ass clown until just recently. Angela became a causeless tramp with none of her common sense stability. Cam has been the only bright and consistent force for a positive response this season as even Sweets had an absurd amount of face time that just did not jive with is function. Also, who gave Brennan the lobotomy?

I never read spoilers and have no need as the powers that be go out of their way to ruin a show I so thoroughly enjoyed and anticipated. If my personal taste was all that had been offended then fine. I do not see where anyone is pleased with the overall level of performance from this season and only we die hard fans are giving any life to the show right now.

I honestly believe the heart and soul were wrenched from the show with the loss of Eric. There was a connectedness among the cast that has not been restored. I really wanted to give this all a fair chance to play out and prove effective. More than sufficient time and patience has not been rewarded in any satisfying way.

You know why I am so critical? Because I love this show and hate to see it suffer like a wounded and abandoned fledgling.

Alrighty then. You've all got my thoughts swirling around in my head I hardly know which way is up!

But seriously, I hardly ever read spoilers for the fact that the times I have, I was SOOOOO disappointed by what I read I completely lost interest in the show!

As for how S4 has been progressing.... umm, I think if you watch it from start to finish without all the hubbub and hoopla and moving time-slots and breaks for 'holidays' it actually moves along quite well. Yes, the continuity is a bit out and there are certain things that could be ALOT better, but all-in-all its about as good as anything else.

I think ALL the shows suffered from the strike and they all tried to move too quickly this year. Instead of taking a big breath, they all seemed to have just ditched the latter half of last season without resolving anything and moving on too quickly.

At the end of the day, I enjoy this show and will continue to watch (hopefully when they've finished showing reruns of S1).

I have to say that I've had similar feelings about this season as our original poster here. I mean, I think in general the show tends to be a little bit inconsistent as far as some things go...for example...Dr. Brennan is a purely scientific mind with no insight into psychology...yet she is a best selling novelist?! I mean talk about opposite sides of the brain here people. And as mentioned earlier, I agree that they were a little extreme with the whole "how bad is bones in the interrogation room" thing. Like the original poster said, she has had time to grow. I will say though, that most of the time Booth is leading the interrogations, and when she does jump in on her own, it's usually because she identifies with what the suspect is going through on some level. She relates, so it's easy. I had the SAME thoughts about gravedigger part 1 and 2 for that matter. There is no way this woman buried a vehicle 6 feet under ground, and dragged 2 unconscious people to the dessert alone. I definately would have liked to have heard some back story on her.

Maybe bones is renouned for being accurate, but I don't think it was ever a hook based on action. Infact I find their story lines sometimes boring, and anticlimatic. It's pretty cookie cutter if you think about it: we get a group of 3 or 4 suspects, and if you wanna figure out who it is, just pick the one noone suspected in the beginning. Pretty predictable. And usually the resolution is all of..."oh my Gosh Hodgins just found some particlesthat proves so and so did it! Let's go arrest him." And then they do. Don't get me wrong..I LOVE Bones. This sounds like a Bones bash but it's not. It's a CHARACTER driven show as far as I'm concerned, and on that end the writers and actors are brilliant. Who couldn't fall in love with every single character on that show? I mean...Lance sweets makes me laugh out loud without even having to speak a line of dialogue. Everyone on that show is so talented, and they've developed such robust, rich characters. However, I feel someone needs to go back and teach these writers some basic story telling skills, like the idea of rising action, and climax (AND consistency). It seems like we rarely get it..at least lately.

As far as this season in particular goes, I will agree again. It feels like a very stagnant season. I don't know if it's because of all the hiatuses for the sake of Obama and A.I., but it just seems like NOTHING is happening. Too many funny episodes and not enough plot movement. Not enough edge. I want to see these characters start GOING through something. The beginning of the season had some promise. We had hints that maybe we would be introduced to Booth's father, and get some back story on that. (BY the way...I just want to say how INaccurate it was that Sweets pulled everyone together to tell them that Booth was abused by his father! UM...patient - doctor confidentiality people?! Not to mention basic ethics? How did writers miss that? Sloppy). I also liked what they were doing with Max Keenan working at the Jeffersonian, but we all know what happened there. Then everything just stopped. It even seems like the last 3 episodes or so, Booth and Bones haven't even had much screen time together. Now I'm hearing stories of Stewie from family guy, and hallucinations. And is anyone else worried that having Booth and Bones sleep together is just going to KILL their chemistry? I mean, don't get me wrong..we ALL want it. I won't deny it, haha. But that's what keeps us watching. I'm afraid it's going to be late season 9 X-files all over again...Mulder and Scully with their alien baby...SNOOZE! Anyway...I'm rambling...season 2 was by far the best, and I will continue to have blind faith that the writers know what they're doing. I guess all we can do is wait and see.

totally agree with everything you said. but concering the blind faith in the writers...

someone mentioned the connection between the quality of the show going down and ratings going up.. and that's exactly what worries me. carefully-written character-driven shows that have a continuous story arch and delve into the characters' backgrounds, and that dare to be dark at times, just generally don't do as well ratings-wise.. because you need to watch every episode to keep up with a show like that.

so i am a little worried that maybe the fact that most season 4 episodes have been so stand-alone, light and comedyish (to the point of silly) might not be a consequence of the strike or an impression you get because of all the pre-emptions.. but that it might be on purpose to get higher ratings.

and that really would make me very sad. because then there would be no hope for things to get better. meaning for the quality to go back to what season 2 was like, or at least season 3 (which was lighter already, but still a lot better than this season imo).

I agree guys...
I feel like theres too much BB now... So when we used to only have those BB moments once a show they were great... Now theres like 5 an episode and i takes away from the specialty (dont know if thats a word haha) of those moments
So i dont know i think they need to get back to the crime and have some less drama
Even the sully episodes had less drama then these epi's do!! lol