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Post by bugaboo628 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:52 am

Does anyone think that Hacker is in some way connected to the Gravedigger? What about the Fish Woman ~ remember Taffet volunteered at an aquarium?

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by DripPan on Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:10 am

Oh Bug,

You opened this thread just for me!!

First thing that must be cleared in everyone's head is THE GRAVEDIGGER IS NOT A SERIAL KILLER!! HE/SHE IS A SERIAL KIDNAPPER!!

Yes, people have died whom they have kidnapped but they have also set people free they have kidnapped. Serial killers murder everyone they take.

If you go about investigating this as a serial killer, you will get no where real fast!!

I see things that could possibly lead to Hacker being in cohoots with the Gravedigger. Here are some examples of why it would fit in:

1. End in the Beginning references:

a. Jared BOOTH is a cop working for the GD. BOOTH is a cop who works for Hacker.

b. Max is the GD and a politicain in the episode. Hacker is a big time politician.

2. Hacker is overly obsessed with getting close to Brennan. As Booth's boss, he can easily keep an eye on him but Brennan is a free spirit.

3. In the upcoming episode Hacker is willing to bend FBI policy to see Brennan. Why when in 'Proof in the Pudding' he wasn't going to break any rules to get to her?

4. Hacker is a politician. Politicians don't do anything without getting something out of it. What is he getting out of pursuing Brennan?

5. No one is buying that Heather Taffet worked alone as the GD.

6. Hacker has money since he owns a Stratocaster guitar. Where did the money come from? GD money?

Speculation:

1. After Brennan/Hodgin are rescued, Hacker could easily assigned the GD case to a low level FBI agent and had the case buried. We learned about the FBI not investigating it anymore in 'Hero in the Hold'.

2. Hacker and Taffet could easily be in cohoots in that they have worked cases in the past together. We still don't know what division Hacker worked in but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the kidnapping branch.

3. Catherine who is in an up and coming episode works at an aquarium. Is this the same aquarium that the ship was decorated and Booth was put on?

I don't think I missed anything as far as proof/speculation. If I did, please let me know and I'll add it to the above.

The more I think about it, the better fit Hacker actually has to being the GD partner in crime. There are alot of ways this scenario can play out if he is the GD.

1. He has Taffet murder but B&B can't positively prove that it was him.

2. Hacker testifies that Booth's memory isn't up to par since the operation. This throws more self doubt on Booth. Brennan fights against Hacker/Booth's opinion that he is damaged now.

3. Hacker goes down in flames as Booth slams him into a table at the same time Brennan hits him upside the head with a briefcase.

I copied this from the post I wrote on the BY.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by TinkonBrink on Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:20 am

Oh, I'm in on Fishy bluefish being in on something 'fishy' (Careful Booth, the next tie she gets you could be laced with anthrax!)

As for Forehead? alien (Taffet would surely have wiped the floor with this man? Unless this partnership is mirroring Pinky and The Brain? Remember that look Taffet had when she finally got caught?...Yes, the one that clearly said "At this point you could threaten to feed all my existing family members to crocodiles right before my eyes and I still wouldn't tell you anything!"? Could you imagine Hacker pulling off THAT look? geek No )
Still, somewhere deep, deep, deepDEEP down under that...ummm...let's go with the word 'Stupid' (for now) exterior, there could be bubbling the evil workings of a master serial killer kidnapper/leave 'em to suffocate-er? affraid

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by bugaboo628 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:49 am

You are damn right I did Drip! Very Happy

Reading you post it makes a hell of alot of sense. Especially when you link it up to the Season 4 finale. Wow! I really don't know what to say. I am rarely at a loss for words. Wink

You got it right for last season's finale, didn't you? That it was Brennan's book?

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by DripPan on Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:37 am

I got alot of things right last season on my predictions. I guessed 4 predictions but only 3 came to pass.

Zach storyline closure is still in the air, IMO. B&B has to find out he's innocent.

And I did guess someone was writing a fanfic for the finale.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by jcn747 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:43 am

Well yes i think it does fit well, i always thought there was something odd about hacker, i have my reason as well (i have just copied them from another post)

1. so far he has been in two episodes, even though there was no need for him to be in either.
2. He is the only DATE that has stuck around for more than one episode.
3. If he is going to end up dating Bones, what was the point in having him in tPitP when nothing happened, it does not make sense to have her date just randomly in the episode.
4. Is it just a co-incidence that his name is andrew and in the book the main character is Andy (i did not notice this, i was mentioned in another post so who ever said it feel free to take the credit )
5. What is the point in doing all the dating towards the end of the season, if it does not contribute to anything. i mean if Hacker is a meaningless date they could have had the problem over and done with in the first half of the season.
6. And did anyone else wonder if there was a reason why Hacker was booth boss, i mean why not just some random, it had to be booth boss.
So they are my reasons, they may be a bit of a stretch , but i just don't have a good feeling about Hacker i think he is there for a reason, but then again, maybe they just like him and i am crazy
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on top of my insane paranoia we also have evidence, well sort of.

DripPan wrote:
1. End in the Beginning references:
a. Jared BOOTH is a cop working for the GD. BOOTH is a cop who works for Hacker.
b. Max is the GD and a politicain in the episode. Hacker is a big time politician.
2. Hacker is overly obsessed with getting close to Brennan. As Booth's boss, he can easily keep an eye on him but Brennan is a free spirit.
3. In the upcoming episode Hacker is willing to bend FBI policy to see Brennan. Why when in 'Proof in the Pudding' he wasn't going to break any rules to get to her?
4. Hacker is a politician. Politicians don't do anything without getting something out of it. What is he getting out of pursuing Brennan?
5. No one is buying that Heather Taffet worked alone as the GD.
6. Hacker has money since he owns a Stratocaster guitar. Where did the money come from? GD money?


I also think there is a chance fishy bluefish is tied up in all this aswell, i mean out of all the possible jobs there are, she works at an aquarium Suspect.

I think it could be either hacker or Klein, possibly both.

And just one last useless thought, In the season 4 final there was a lot of tie business, then this season once again a lot of tie business (NatBM and TMitTC), then Klein gives booth a tie.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by heirofloki on Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:05 pm

The deputy director of the FBI is not a politician!!!!

OMG. Sorry, it was driving me a little bit crazy. There are politicized postings and there are postings for politicians. This would be the former, not the latter.

And I hope not. As I posted elsewhere: How is it that the one date Booth has in what, like, three years turns out to be in cahoots with the psycho kidnapper that almost got him and Brennan (and Hodgins) killed? That would not be cool. Sorry, but no. I know there's this whole fandom "she must be evil!" thing going on, but I don't roll with that. And also, poor Booth. How demoralizing.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by DripPan on Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:42 pm

I'm am not against Booth or Brennan dating and I think B&B are using both of them for experiments/hiding behind.

I am the first one who sticks up for the dates in all episodes. I seriously went to bat for Perotta who was done wrong by these two "We're just partners" mantra. I was angry at Brennan for not telling both guys that she was seeing other guys in 'Outhouse'.

I think B&B are evil to other people and it's getting worse as they keep denying their feelings more and more.

BTW, Hacker says he's into the political scene in 'Pudding'. He loves it. He's got contacts in the White House. He is a politician for the FBI.

I just can't understand why Hacker is wrote up in such a goofy way or why the very serious interest in Brennan.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by heirofloki on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:39 pm

DripPan wrote:BTW, Hacker says he's into the political scene in 'Pudding'. He loves it. He's got contacts in the White House. He is a politician for the FBI.


Again, political postings do not politicians make. Anyone who's anyone (or wants to be) in Washington has contacts in the WH. And the hill.

I just can't understand why Hacker is wrote up in such a goofy way or why the very serious interest in Brennan.


Hacker is a caricature of Booth (and since we're at it, let's be honest here: have y'all seen DB's forehead? It looks good on him, but like, look at the Angel pupet, y'all!), in the same way that Catherine is a diluted version of Brennan. They are, in fact, Kathy and Andy. They are just transformed versions of the real thing. Booth has a serious interest in Brennan and a Serious Forehead. Brennan has a serious interest in science and gave Booth the belt-buckle. IMO, there's plenty of parallels already. They don't need to throw the GD into this to make it compelling -but they would run the risk of making it cluttered. Don't get me wrong, I'm in for the ride, but I seriously hope this doesn't turn into yet another "she can't pick a date to save her life/date is the serial killer" scenario. I have NCIS for that. *pets Ziva*

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by treble21 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:15 pm

DripPan wrote:
I am the first one who sticks up for the dates in all episodes. I seriously went to bat for Perotta who was done wrong by these two "We're just partners" mantra. I was angry at Brennan for not telling both guys that she was seeing other guys in 'Outhouse'.



I like Perotta ( and Sully for that matter) but am I missing something? how was Perotta "done wrong" by B/B. She liked Booth, he flirted back, She realized that he wanted Bones's "soft soft skin" (lol) and it went nowhere. No one led her on, and lets be honest Booth and Brennan are in denial themselves could they really be expected to tell outsiders that they are pining for one another?

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by treble21 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:18 pm

heirofloki wrote:
DripPan wrote:BTW, Hacker says he's into the political scene in 'Pudding'. He loves it. He's got contacts in the White House. He is a politician for the FBI.


Again, political postings do not politicians make. Anyone who's anyone (or wants to be) in Washington has contacts in the WH. And the hill.

I just can't understand why Hacker is wrote up in such a goofy way or why the very serious interest in Brennan.


Hacker is a caricature of Booth (and since we're at it, let's be honest here: have y'all seen DB's forehead? It looks good on him, but like, look at the Angel pupet, y'all!), in the same way that Catherine is a diluted version of Brennan. They are, in fact, Kathy and Andy. They are just transformed versions of the real thing. Booth has a serious interest in Brennan and a Serious Forehead. Brennan has a serious interest in science and gave Booth the belt-buckle. IMO, there's plenty of parallels already. They don't need to throw the GD into this to make it compelling -but they would run the risk of making it cluttered. Don't get me wrong, I'm in for the ride, but I seriously hope this doesn't turn into yet another "she can't pick a date to save her life/date is the serial killer" scenario. I have NCIS for that. *pets Ziva*



cosigning this cause I couldn't have said it better myself. bowdown when i was reading your point about the Angel puppet all I could think of was Spike's nickname for Angel, "Captain Forehead" .

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by bugaboo628 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:41 pm

heirofloki wrote:The deputy director of the FBI is not a politician!!!!

OMG. Sorry, it was driving me a little bit crazy. There are politicized postings and there are postings for politicians. This would be the former, not the latter.


I agree with Drip on this one. Hackjob is a politician.

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Main Entry: pol·i·ti·cian
Pronunciation: \ˌpä-lə-ˈti-shən\
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2 a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession b : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons


All it take is experience in government ~ by having contacts in the WH it proves he has experience.

Also...the FBI is part of the government!

Just my 2 cents. Smile

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by Bamaelroy on Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:34 am

Drip, I think you have made an awesome case as to why the GD could be Hacker. AND I especially like it because it gives a reason why he acts so ridiculously smitten around Brennan. The GD has 'insider' written all over it and after the Gormogon fiasco, I don't think they're going to pull one out of thin air. They've had time to plot this out and seemingly have had it in mind since last year's 'Hero' episode. It was the central villain 'theme' of the dream finale for a reason too.

I hope you're right because a.) it makes for some awesome drama and b.) I think Hacker will be a much better villain than good guy with that over the top style of his that seemingly can turn on a dime. it's just too smiley, haha, chummy...and I think booth has good instincts and he 'smells' something in regard to hackjob. We see that he is willing to bury the truth as he did when he told B/B there would be no words on their reports.

And C.) Brennan canNOT choose men. This will be the final looser she will ever find herself remotely involved with. *grin*

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by bugaboo628 on Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:14 am

Bama, you really think that Booth thinks something is up with Hacker? I don't get that feeling at all.

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Re: The Gravedigger Conspiracy

Post by revi on Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:09 am

LOL, that is a very good point.

If we consider history tends to repeat itself, look at the people who Brennan has gone out with.

Look at how they turned out. Smile

Why should it be different with Hacker.

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