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Post by the beaver1965 on Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:20 pm

It could be, because HH is trying to get a new show off the ground, he might have lost creativity on Bones. I hope that is true. He is a great writer, but his obsession on keeping BB apart was wearing thin on me. I read on a another thread, that people are blaming Emily for saying that there would a lot of kissing between BB this season and it is not coming true. Don't blame her because she only says what HH wants her to say.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by tinkrella on Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:35 pm

the beaver1965 wrote:It could be, because HH is trying to get a new show off the ground, he might have lost creativity on Bones. I hope that is true. He is a great writer, but his obsession on keeping BB apart was wearing thin on me. I read on a another thread, that people are blaming Emily for saying that there would a lot of kissing between BB this season and it is not coming trlyue. Don't blame her because she only says what HH wants her to say.



Yeah it's just like when hart had emily spouting "they'll be naked in bed together" to anyone that would listen. yeah they were...but not in the way people wanted and he knew that. While Emily and David are producers and get an in on things, I don't think they know how the entire season will play out unless hart specifically tells them.

In the interview I read emily said "there will be kissing." she never said WHO would be doing the kissing unless I missed something somewhere.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by Arviana on Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:38 pm

As far as the scans go... I think that in DitD they set up a resolution in Bone's speech. She says that "love comes first and creates the reaction" in reference to brain chemistry. So that would nicely clear up the fact that there was no "brain chemistry" before the coma and that there was afterwards.

Hopefully that is their intention with that speech, and the scans will be cleared up soon.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by Bonesfan47 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:37 am

Hi I'm new to this forum but I have been an obsessed fan since it's second season and I am twitter as the same name here. Anyway I too think these spoilers are fake not only because of all the information it gives away but also because if you take a look at the sides for Judge Reilly Dufrey and the sides for Reporter 1 and 2 you will see the page number is the same but some of the dialogue is different and then in the judge sides after Booth mentions Taffet it goes to the court room but in the reporter sides after Booth mentions Taffet it goes into some reporters now usually what I would always notice is that when the char they are auditioning for is not in a section there is usually an X or something indicating that the char is not in the scene I have never seen them literally take a part out completely so then another thing that came to my mind was that maybe the reporter sides then is a new copy an edited version so I took a look at the time stamp and it was only a minute apart now I know the writers could probably type fast but I don't think they could type all that that fast. making me strongly believe that these sides are unfortunately fake and it wouldn't be the first time this happened since in Harbingers HH added a kiss to the sides cause he knows things get leaked. And there was just too much information here that seems like they wanted to keep secret like the couple getting married .

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Post by Arviana on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 am

If we do assume these sides are fake, which part do you guys thing is fake?

Is it a different couple getting married? Will it still be AH?

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by jjrobinson73 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 am

Ohhh...I have always thought it was H/A getting married. Espicially after PitP. I see her dropping Wendell soon.

Also....from the promo's....could anyone tell whose apartment they (B/B) were having coffe in? Hers or his? Or was it just me.

As far as the sides....I just started reading them, so I don't know about HitF...and what was leaked. I could see some of this being real...and HH purposefully leaking them to get people talking.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by spygrl on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:43 am

jjrobinson73 wrote:Also....from the promo's....could anyone tell whose apartment they (B/B) were having coffe in? Hers or his? Or was it just me.


I figured they were at the diner or a restaurant of some kind... not in someone's house.

From the sides on that one, the reporter/writer is with them when the earthquake occurs and they were out somewhere.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by Bonesfan47 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:44 am

With Harbingers the only thing that was fake was the kiss everything else was real so I'm thinking maybe some of this is real and some are fake I don't know which would be real and which would be fake I just think some of it is fake because of how one side has a lot of added stuff that is not on the other side when it is the same page and only a minute difference in the time stamp. Who knows maybe it all is real I guess we won't really know until May when it airs but that is what I believe that at least some of it is fake

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Post by talkaboutbones on Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:17 am

Can anyone share here who the Boy refers to? Thanx.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by Bonesfan47 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:38 am

talkaboutbones wrote:Can anyone share here who the Boy refers to? Thanx.



My guess is that the boy refers to another gravedigger victim esp after reading the sides for the Jury foreman

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by sirenized on Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:35 am

DripPan wrote:
Another question I have is why "The Boy with the Answer"? Shouldn't it be 'BOYS' since there are two victims? Who is 'the boy' referring too?


Could the Boy being referred to be the unfound victim of Taffet, Terrence Gilroy. Maybe Brennan finds him and thats hat nails Taffet, hence her fury at Brennan at the end and the threat that it wasnt over?

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by treble21 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:53 am

sirenized wrote:
DripPan wrote:
Another question I have is why "The Boy with the Answer"? Shouldn't it be 'BOYS' since there are two victims? Who is 'the boy' referring too?


Could the Boy being referred to be the unfound victim of Taffet, Terrence Gilroy. Maybe Brennan finds him and thats hat nails Taffet, hence her fury at Brennan at the end and the threat that it wasnt over?


yep after reading the new sides for the reporters I would completely agree with this assessment, I think that Taffet manages to get off for all the other vicitims for lack of evidence, but they must find either the victim or some other evidence to connect her to Terrence Gilroy, being that he's the murder that she's been convicted of.


also with regards to the HH bashing, I don't think he's quite the devil we all make him out to be, yes he's the most vocal showrunner but he is far from the only one. There are lots of producers and writers on the show ( including ED and DB) Spoilers are put out there to tease and tantalize that is the point of them, and while I agree that he did not handle the spoilers last year, well ( ok it was horrible to say the sex would be "real" when it wasn't) I don't think it's necessary to continually harp on it. JMO

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by tinkrella on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:15 am

I too wouldn't put it past hart and co. to slip some fake things in with the real ones just to "shake things up" If anything is fake it's that the GD went to jail. I think she got off and if they are real i think she WILL end up getting off somehow or killed.

I think it's brennan's apt. they are having coffee in. it looks like her bookshelves. A girl visited the set about a month back and said they had brennan's apt. set up. They can only ever have one up at a time either booth or brennan's b/c they share the same space. So we know we'll see hers at some point.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by heirofloki on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:31 am

also with regards to the HH bashing, I don't think he's quite the devil we all make him out to be, yes he's the most vocal showrunner but he is far from the only one. There are lots of producers and writers on the show ( including ED and DB) Spoilers are put out there to tease and tantalize that is the point of them, and while I agree that he did not handle the spoilers last year, well ( ok it was horrible to say the sex would be "real" when it wasn't) I don't think it's necessary to continually harp on it. JMO


See? I've been trying to shut myself up but, really, I think it needs to be addressed. Treble is of course right about the fact that HH isn't the only producer on the show nor the only showrunner against spoilers. There are, in fact, far more vocal and far more opposed people in the business (JJ I'm looking at you!) who will do anything to throw people off track. Misdirection is nothing new. It's not even close to the worse case scenario either. As for Sides: Sides are NOT LEAKED SPOILERS. This isn't some amateur PA who decided to post script pages online. Sides are posted on the internet for CASTING PURPOSES, hence the term: Casting Sides. That they change? Yeah, they change. And NO, it's not always 'cause producers are evil or whatever. Casting sides often come from white or blue drafts (which are very early versions of the script). That is why somethings are re-written. And for the record, I've seen entire episodes being rewritten after being cast. So, there.

*steps off soapbox*

Sorry, guys, but the harping, it gets old (particularly if you've been unfortunate enough to have dealt with honest-to-god horrible showrunners).

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"

Post by joybrennan on Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:22 am

Arviana wrote:As far as the scans go... I think that in DitD they set up a resolution in Bone's speech. She says that "love comes first and creates the reaction" in reference to brain chemistry. So that would nicely clear up the fact that there was no "brain chemistry" before the coma and that there was afterwards.

Hopefully that is their intention with that speech, and the scans will be cleared up soon.


Nice thought, but I think it's just about Brennan's turn-around on her thinking about sex and love. They couldn't just have her suddenly believe in love and have it linked to sex after five years of insisting that sexual attraction was simply a matter of hormonal brain chemistry. Also, I don't think they're being that particular about the brain scan thing. They just needed something as a stall for the B&B thing and threw the scan issue together. When they need to, they'll get rid of it just as quickly.

I say this because the scan issue is, to me, the most bogus, non-researched, non-medical theory they've done on "Bones." Having a tumor removed would likely have two results: to take things AWAY, such as memories, abilities, etc and/or bring BACK behavior that had been lost. IE, one sign of a brain tumor is problems with sight. Another is PERSONALITY CHANGES. The following is from emediencehealth.com

(A brain tumor can cause) "Gradual changes in intellectual or emotional capacity

In many people, the onset of these symptoms is very gradual and may be overlooked by both the person with the brain tumor and the person's family members, even for long time periods.

The symptoms are caused by the tumor pressing on or encroaching on other parts of the brain and keeping them from functioning normally."

Hence, Sweets' point about the scan makes NO SENSE. In fact, it points to the opposite. It is more logical to assume that Booth's lack of activity in that part of the brain was CAUSED by the tumor, keeping him from having direct access to that part of the brain. Once the tumor was removed, thus releasing the pressure on that part of the brain, he is flooded with the truth of his feelings - which were acted out in coma dream, and made that part of his brain "light up." The gradual change in his ability to access those feelings of romantic love also helps explain why it took FIVE SEASONS for him to acknowledge his feelings for Bones, as well as why the hallucination about the baby came up - it was his true feelings looking for an alternative pathway to come out about the situation.

In fact, when I first heard Sweets tell Booth that his feeling might not be real, I thought it was some plot by Sweets to keep Booth away from Brennan so that it wouldn't ruin the conclusion of his book! Laughing At any rate, I'm sure that if they decide they actually want B&B together, they'll come up with something to negate the scan thing. Might even be what I just wrote about. Very Happy

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