Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"
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tinkrella wrote:I too wouldn't put it past hart and co. to slip some fake things in with the real ones just to "shake things up."
Ditto! However, I think she actually will goto jail, because it's hard to get the actress that plays her.

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Re: Sides ~ S05E21 "The Boy with the Answer"
Or Hacker! You mustn't forget about him, and frankly he would be a better choice thanjoybrennan wrote:tinkrella wrote:I too wouldn't put it past hart and co. to slip some fake things in with the real ones just to "shake things up."
Ditto! However, I think she actually will goto jail, because it's hard to get the actress that plays her.Also, they may be setting up that Katherine chick Booth is supposed to date (
) as the gravedigger's accomplice, so they'll still be someone out there to do her dirty work.
, imo.I find it interesting that Taffett is representing herself. After all, "a lawyer who represents [herself]has a fool for a client."

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dawnsfire wrote:
I find it interesting that Taffett is representing herself. After all, "a lawyer who represents [herself]has a fool for a client."
Well...she is a pyschopath serial killer.

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joybrennan wrote:Arviana wrote:As far as the scans go... I think that in DitD they set up a resolution in Bone's speech. She says that "love comes first and creates the reaction" in reference to brain chemistry. So that would nicely clear up the fact that there was no "brain chemistry" before the coma and that there was afterwards.
Hopefully that is their intention with that speech, and the scans will be cleared up soon.
Nice thought, but I think it's just about Brennan's turn-around on her thinking about sex and love. They couldn't just have her suddenly believe in love and have it linked to sex after five years of insisting that sexual attraction was simply a matter of hormonal brain chemistry. Also, I don't think they're being that particular about the brain scan thing. They just needed something as a stall for the B&B thing and threw the scan issue together. When they need to, they'll get rid of it just as quickly.
I say this because the scan issue is, to me, the most bogus, non-researched, non-medical theory they've done on "Bones." Having a tumor removed would likely have two results: to take things AWAY, such as memories, abilities, etc and/or bring BACK behavior that had been lost. IE, one sign of a brain tumor is problems with sight. Another is PERSONALITY CHANGES. The following is from emediencehealth.com
(A brain tumor can cause) "Gradual changes in intellectual or emotional capacity
In many people, the onset of these symptoms is very gradual and may be overlooked by both the person with the brain tumor and the person's family members, even for long time periods.
The symptoms are caused by the tumor pressing on or encroaching on other parts of the brain and keeping them from functioning normally."
Hence, Sweets' point about the scan makes NO SENSE. In fact, it points to the opposite. It is more logical to assume that Booth's lack of activity in that part of the brain was CAUSED by the tumor, keeping him from having direct access to that part of the brain. Once the tumor was removed, thus releasing the pressure on that part of the brain, he is flooded with the truth of his feelings - which were acted out in coma dream, and made that part of his brain "light up." The gradual change in his ability to access those feelings of romantic love also helps explain why it took FIVE SEASONS for him to acknowledge his feelings for Bones, as well as why the hallucination about the baby came up - it was his true feelings looking for an alternative pathway to come out about the situation.
In fact, when I first heard Sweets tell Booth that his feeling might not be real, I thought it was some plot by Sweets to keep Booth away from Brennan so that it wouldn't ruin the conclusion of his book!At any rate, I'm sure that if they decide they actually want B&B together, they'll come up with something to negate the scan thing. Might even be what I just wrote about.
That is the best scan theory i have heard, and i hope they do research as well and solve the scan issue properly. I agree that is was just put in there so they didn't have to put the two together, but think they could have done it in another way, maybe a better researched way. But i also agreed that Sweets either did it for some experiment, or he looked at the scans and came to the conclusion, based on what he thought, but not what was true, it would be great for Booth to show Cam the scans and for her to be like "Sweets is wrong", or eve better booth could show Bones. The scan issue can be ok, providing it is handled right. ANd thanks for that info as well, very interesting.

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I still don't get the scan thing. I know it's been talked about to death. But it really bugs me. Did he do it on purpose? Because, even in my low level psych classes in college we learned ALL about the workings of the brian. You name it, we learned about it. For a pretty smart and well schooled man like sweets....it just strikes me as odd that he would say "oh you obviously weren't in love before the tumor" when the tumor most likely was what was keeping him from love to begin with lol It boggles my mind. I almost hope he did it on purpose because otherwise it's a pretty dumb storyline IMO.
I always figured he did it to protect brennan. Sweets knew what a tough recovery booth had and knew he was really super confused and wanted to make sure he didn't go jumping the gun with brennan without him knowing for sure. But, then I feel like....well maybe sweets is crazy enough to mess it up on purpose so he can experiment some more.
I still think the dating thing is suggested by sweets b/c they still deny their feelings after the book/100th thing. He gets sick of it and just says "fine if you are so not in love why don't you try dating other people" Booth/brennan refuse. They go to the high school reunion....it gets tense and scary b/c they are pretending to be married and confronting their feelings and basically hide by dating other people.
I always figured he did it to protect brennan. Sweets knew what a tough recovery booth had and knew he was really super confused and wanted to make sure he didn't go jumping the gun with brennan without him knowing for sure. But, then I feel like....well maybe sweets is crazy enough to mess it up on purpose so he can experiment some more.
I still think the dating thing is suggested by sweets b/c they still deny their feelings after the book/100th thing. He gets sick of it and just says "fine if you are so not in love why don't you try dating other people" Booth/brennan refuse. They go to the high school reunion....it gets tense and scary b/c they are pretending to be married and confronting their feelings and basically hide by dating other people.
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I said it right after we found out about the tumor that it probably effected Booth's sexual/love senses. I said it was like a cork in a wine bottle but once that cork was released, it would over flow.
I think it was very, very bad writing of putting another thing to keep B&B apart. The fans called him on this too. It was crap writing.
The problem is they haven't addressed Booth's mental condition all season but just point crap out. This really was one of my biggest fears this year that they are going to keep him confused all season. This would have been a very great opportune time to write some really great Sweets' parts but they have him doing nothing to help Booth.
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I think it was very, very bad writing of putting another thing to keep B&B apart. The fans called him on this too. It was crap writing.
The problem is they haven't addressed Booth's mental condition all season but just point crap out. This really was one of my biggest fears this year that they are going to keep him confused all season. This would have been a very great opportune time to write some really great Sweets' parts but they have him doing nothing to help Booth.
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As I recall, Rob said that too, about the tumor squashing down things, things that were released when the tumor was removed. I find it reasonable, though I be no doctor.


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I just object the fact that the scan issue was a big issue, and it basically stopped booth from telling Bones he loved her. But they don't address it at all, i mean if you do something big like that, you cant just ignore it for the whole season.
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^Exactly.
I mean, if it was an issue I guess that's fine. But if it was, you don't drop it and just leave it be like that. This season has certainly gotten better in the continuity department, or at the least better than last season was. However, there's the issue of the scans, the fact Booth publicly admitted to someone else he was in love with Brennan, not to mention the fact that at the end of last season Brennan decided she wanted HIS baby and then turned around and changed her mind on the drop of a dime. Do I expect all of that to be resolved/addressed accordingly? Not necessarily, but I'd like them to do something here.
Booth's...well, Booth, and so of course the scans are an issue for him and maybe that's what's holding him back from truly accepting the fact that he loves her. That being said, if we leave this season and everything is STILL ambiguous between them and they haven't at the very least admitted their feelings for one another, I will be one unhappy fangirl.
I mean, if it was an issue I guess that's fine. But if it was, you don't drop it and just leave it be like that. This season has certainly gotten better in the continuity department, or at the least better than last season was. However, there's the issue of the scans, the fact Booth publicly admitted to someone else he was in love with Brennan, not to mention the fact that at the end of last season Brennan decided she wanted HIS baby and then turned around and changed her mind on the drop of a dime. Do I expect all of that to be resolved/addressed accordingly? Not necessarily, but I'd like them to do something here.
Booth's...well, Booth, and so of course the scans are an issue for him and maybe that's what's holding him back from truly accepting the fact that he loves her. That being said, if we leave this season and everything is STILL ambiguous between them and they haven't at the very least admitted their feelings for one another, I will be one unhappy fangirl.
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MoonlightGardenias wrote:^Exactly.
I mean, if it was an issue I guess that's fine. But if it was, you don't drop it and just leave it be like that. This season has certainly gotten better in the continuity department, or at the least better than last season was. However, there's the issue of the scans, the fact Booth publicly admitted to someone else he was in love with Brennan, not to mention the fact that at the end of last season Brennan decided she wanted HIS baby and then turned around and changed her mind on the drop of a dime. Do I expect all of that to be resolved/addressed accordingly? Not necessarily, but I'd like them to do something here.
Booth's...well, Booth, and so of course the scans are an issue for him and maybe that's what's holding him back from truly accepting the fact that he loves her. That being said, if we leave this season and everything is STILL ambiguous between them and they haven't at the very least admitted their feelings for one another, I will be one unhappy fangirl.
I am also going to be one very unhappy fangirl, but unfortunately, I do not see anymore forward progress for Booth and Brennan by the end of the season. With Angela and Hodgins getting married, I don't think there is anyway that TPTB (or, as Rob likes to say, the more appropriate TIIC) give us any progress with B&B. No way they put those two couples together around the same time at the end of the season. I see a lot more stalling in the relationship, maybe even heading into the middle of next season. My only hope is that they give us some sort of resolution because all season they have been telling us that Booth loves Brennan and if they don't at least address why he is abandoning that and dating other people, I will not be pleased. And if Angela and Hodgins together is what I was supposed to be dancing around and happy about at the end of the season, like that one spoiler said, it's not going to cut it. Honestly, not to insult any Hodgela shippers out there, but I don't really care if they are together.
I think the B&B dating other people thing is going to make for some good and much needed angst at the end of the season that will hopefully push them closer together but only if it is resolved by the end of the season. If it extends into next season, which I think could be a possibility, then it is just plain overkill and I will not be happy.

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I'm not even asking for a happy resolution to this season. I mean it would be nice yes, but given what we know it might not happen. To be honest, I *want* angst at this point. Not them hating each other or anything, but I want them pushed to the brink. I want an all out, no holds barred, truth-revealing argument in which the band-aid gets ripped off and this whole in-between where we know she loves him and he loves her but they both think the other doesn't or couldn't love them. I know that it's necessary and that there is a method to the madness, but it doesn't make it any better.
I don't expect perfect. I just want something that shows we're headed somewhere. The speeches and looks and moments of physical contact with them both being aware of "something" happening are fine and good and we can still have those, but there has to be an inclination at some point that they're headed somewhere with this thing.
I don't expect perfect. I just want something that shows we're headed somewhere. The speeches and looks and moments of physical contact with them both being aware of "something" happening are fine and good and we can still have those, but there has to be an inclination at some point that they're headed somewhere with this thing.
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The way i see it they have a few things they need to discuss and resolve.
-Bones wanting Booths baby.
-Booth's scan issue.
-Who is "acutely aware of the tension" and "struggles with it daily"
-what happened between Angela and Hodgins at the end of critic.
and if those get resolved or discussed i will be super duper happy!!!
-Bones wanting Booths baby.
-Booth's scan issue.
-Who is "acutely aware of the tension" and "struggles with it daily"
-what happened between Angela and Hodgins at the end of critic.
and if those get resolved or discussed i will be super duper happy!!!

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MoonlightGardenias wrote:I'm not even asking for a happy resolution to this season. I mean it would be nice yes, but given what we know it might not happen. To be honest, I *want* angst at this point. Not them hating each other or anything, but I want them pushed to the brink. I want an all out, no holds barred, truth-revealing argument in which the band-aid gets ripped off and this whole in-between where we know she loves him and he loves her but they both think the other doesn't or couldn't love them. I know that it's necessary and that there is a method to the madness, but it doesn't make it any better.
I don't expect perfect. I just want something that shows we're headed somewhere. The speeches and looks and moments of physical contact with them both being aware of "something" happening are fine and good and we can still have those, but there has to be an inclination at some point that they're headed somewhere with this thing.
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love HODGELA!!! but totally agree, that means no B&B action, unless they are actually taking us in to the last season of Bones (I don't even want to think abt that possibility) somehow the word: "FAKE" keeps coming into my mind...
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Soooo Ryan O'Neil (Max) is in this episode. Thoughts?

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