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Post by HoneySpice on Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:14 am

Five years on, the episode
after episode inability of Booth and Bones to come together as other than crime partners is wearing thin. The first four seasonswere highly comedic and capitalized on Bones 's and Booth's relationship as a crime fighting duo who were also reluctantly attracted to one another. However, this season
, they are a mess over one another. He is clearly and unequivocally in love. She is also in love but is scared to death of ever acting on it. This conflict occurs in every single episode. I frankly think to break this impasse it would be better to marry them off and then have the comedic friction come from their problems as a Nick and Nora Charles type couple ("The Thin Man"). The unrequited love is sapping the considerable energy and magic of this show plus Bones and Booth as a comedic detective team. Fortunately, the development of Hodkins and Angela is a lot more satisfying for the viewer. We also have another wonderful guest appearance by Stephen Fry as Gordon Gordon, psychiatrist turned chef. The "X Files" developed the same unrequited problem as it continued and it took 9 seasons
to bring Mulder and Scully together. Yes, I kept watching and will keep watching this show for the very same reason, i.e. the episodes week to week make it worth it. The forensic cases week after week, the interaction of the full cast, the comedy involving the full cast, all of this makes it worth while watching week after week. But the unrequited love over nine seasonsmade the final few seasons of the "X files" barely watchable and I hope that doesn't happen here.
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Re: Bones:Unrequited Love Episode After Episode Eroding Other Aspects

Post by joybrennan on Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:54 am

Honestly, I thought the Hodgela thing was a rushed mess, and points out HH's kind of inability to actually see sex as being significant in relationship dynamics. Like, we see all this hot sex between Angela and Wendall. Jack is upset by it, we get an ep about it, but yeah, he's "still cool" with them. They break up and like two-three eps later they get married. Rolling Eyes Obviously, HH's thoughts on such matters are very Brennan-like.
And don't even MENTION X-Files affraid

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Post by MI_Bonesgirl on Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:38 am

I'm actually curious to see how they will write Hodgela as a fully committed, married couple. Something the show has not yet touched, none of the core characters were married. IMO, they did fine with B&B in the S4 finale, so that does give me hope that they won't royally mess it up..but that was 1 episode of an alternate reality. Not really something they had to worry about long-term...

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Post by MoonlightGardenias on Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:59 am

My thing is that, yeah I'd obviously love to see BB exploring the romantic aspect of their lives together, all the while learning to balance personal with professional. I believe that of done right, it could be not only worth it but pretty good. I actually didn't mind the majority of s5--and admittedly, I didn't mind most of post-100th fallout simply because I knew it was coming--but that being said, I also know that we're running out of time.

One of the issues here is that while the chemistry and "These two will eventually get together and make cute babies" attitude has always been around since day one, we haven't always been hit over the head with the obviousness of that fact. Back in the s1-s2 days I don't know if I would have bought Booth's whole "I knew. Right from the beginning." line simply because while he was obviously into her at times, it didn't become obvious until some of the more legendary Booth speeches and acts in s3 onward. You know, the DitS speech, the Christmas tree, sacrificing her to the court because it would make her happy and save her father, etc.

I think that if they continue with how blatant and strong the feelings are, lying just under the surface, it's all gotta come to a head soon. Otherwise, what's the point in rubbing it in all our faces?

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Post by joybrennan on Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:08 am

MoonlightGardenias wrote:My thing is that, yeah I'd obviously love to see BB exploring the romantic aspect of their lives together, all the while learning to balance personal with professional. I believe that of done right, it could be not only worth it but pretty good. I actually didn't mind the majority of s5--and admittedly, I didn't mind most of post-100th fallout simply because I knew it was coming--but that being said, I also know that we're running out of time.

One of the issues here is that while the chemistry and "These two will eventually get together and make cute babies" attitude has always been around since day one, we haven't always been hit over the head with the obviousness of that fact. Back in the s1-s2 days I don't know if I would have bought Booth's whole "I knew. Right from the beginning." line simply because while he was obviously into her at times, it didn't become obvious until some of the more legendary Booth speeches and acts in s3 onward. You know, the DitS speech, the Christmas tree, sacrificing her to the court because it would make her happy and save her father, etc.

I think that if they continue with how blatant and strong the feelings are, lying just under the surface, it's all gotta come to a head soon. Otherwise, what's the point in rubbing it in all our faces?


Yeah, I don't buy the whole, "I knew" thing from Booth. Most men I know, when they are sure about something, they don't just let it go like that, stocks, jobs, a woman... if they are sure, they PURSUE. Booth didn't do it the beginning and he didn't do it in the end. I think he took a gamble and used a sound bite. I'm NOT saying he doesn't love Brennan - I also felt his feelings didn't start getting CLEAR for himself until season three. As to why rub it in our faces? Apparently, HH thinks if he doesn't most viewers will stop watching. Shocked I'm not kidding, read his views on writing for tv. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Zygomatic on Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:45 pm

MI_Bonesgirl wrote:I'm actually curious to see how they will write Hodgela as a fully committed, married couple. Something the show has not yet touched, none of the core characters were married. IMO, they did fine with B&B in the S4 finale, so that does give me hope that they won't royally mess it up..but that was 1 episode of an alternate reality. Not really something they had to worry about long-term...


I totally agree about the Hodgela thing- and I think that part of what makes it so interesting is that they might use it as a possible model for what is to come (BBwise)...as you say, we've had boyfriends and fiances on this show, but Goodman was the only married character on the show really, and I mean we only had him for one season.

I think it'll be interesting to see how they tackle a 100% commited Angela (don't we all...) and see how their relationship will affect everyone else ... I personally am still holding out hope for sweets - such a cutie deserves a happy ending, as do , naturally BB

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Post by joybrennan on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:31 pm

Zygomatic wrote:
MI_Bonesgirl wrote:I'm actually curious to see how they will write Hodgela as a fully committed, married couple. Something the show has not yet touched, none of the core characters were married. IMO, they did fine with B&B in the S4 finale, so that does give me hope that they won't royally mess it up..but that was 1 episode of an alternate reality. Not really something they had to worry about long-term...


I totally agree about the Hodgela thing- and I think that part of what makes it so interesting is that they might use it as a possible model for what is to come (BBwise)...as you say, we've had boyfriends and fiances on this show, but Goodman was the only married character on the show really, and I mean we only had him for one season.

I think it'll be interesting to see how they tackle a 100% commited Angela (don't we all...) and see how their relationship will affect everyone else ... I personally am still holding out hope for sweets - such a cutie deserves a happy ending, as do , naturally BB


I miss Goodman. I was watching some season 1 stuff - I wish he would do a couple of guest star spots.

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Post by MI_Bonesgirl on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:48 pm

The thing with Hodgela, and this proves the point further, they not only rushed the wedding,
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but now they are throwing a pregnancy into the mix. We missed the 1st 7 months of them just enjoying being a married couple
. I'm almost afraid Hart would kill the show if he got B&B together, just because he doesn't know how to handle his characters in committed relationships. I firmly believe this is part of why B&B haven't happened yet.

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Post by MI_Bonesgirl on Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:30 pm

oops, sorry-I was in a rush when I was typing that, not thinking facesmack

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Post by treble21 on Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:49 pm

MI_Bonesgirl wrote:oops, sorry-I was in a rush when I was typing that, not thinking facesmack


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Post by bones fan 99 on Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:46 am

MoonlightGardenias wrote:My thing is that, yeah I'd obviously love to see BB exploring the romantic aspect of their lives together, all the while learning to balance personal with professional. I believe that of done right, it could be not only worth it but pretty good. I actually didn't mind the majority of s5--and admittedly, I didn't mind most of post-100th fallout simply because I knew it was coming--but that being said, I also know that we're running out of time.

One of the issues here is that while the chemistry and "These two will eventually get together and make cute babies" attitude has always been around since day one, we haven't always been hit over the head with the obviousness of that fact. Back in the s1-s2 days I don't know if I would have bought Booth's whole "I knew. Right from the beginning." line simply because while he was obviously into her at times, it didn't become obvious until some of the more legendary Booth speeches and acts in s3 onward. You know, the DitS speech, the Christmas tree, sacrificing her to the court because it would make her happy and save her father, etc.

I think that if they continue with how blatant and strong the feelings are, lying just under the surface, it's all gotta come to a head soon. Otherwise, what's the point in rubbing it in all our faces?


All just how we take things casue I totally by the "I knew right from the begining"

Marathoning the episodes starting at 100 then 1-106 including a re-watch of the 100. I can place those Booth not seeming into Brennan episodes as either being crime episode focused shows (not entirely bad in my opinion) or the fact that if I was booth left standing in the rain and then slapped on the face and left for a year ... I'd be a little pissed and unimpressed.. you can have a feeling that overcomes you without listening to it.
I believe that Booth knew she was the one when he was left standing in the rain compossed himself after slapping etc and spent seasons 1-4 falling in love with Brennan season trying to come to terms with it (hence the speeches evloving as time goes on). The time post finale I think has been dealing with the fallout of trying to move it forward (taking the gamble and asking although not doing as much as many feel he should have...)and failing scrambling with the trying to move on (yes we all feel differently about that too)

Yes HH could just be throwing road blocks but I still can see that sometimes these things do take time (yess I know we all want it now and are running out of patience with it) I still see the episodes as working togther albiet some are weaker than others I've said it before and I'll say it again. I do believe they'll get together I hope most will still be watching but it's really up to an individuals taste.
Lucky I guess that although I love BB and HATE them being with others I still enjoy the show even if I do then daydream about hacking a certain canadians computer on the fox lot.

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Post by MoonlightGardenias on Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:34 am

Well, see, I believe he did too, but then there are moments that make me wonder why he didn't say something sooner if he really did know.

Like the end of Cinderella in the Cardboard for instance. I know he was kind of a jerk (Dr. Burn-in-hell, anyone?) for most of it, but when she started tearing up and saying she wanted to know what it was like to feel connected to someone Booth was all "You will". Well, yes, but to me I felt he should've at least put an arm around her or shown some sort of inclination that he was in love. Even if he didn't feel she was "ready" so he didn't say the words.

It's not all his fault though. She HAD to know at some point before he told her. How many dates can a guy interrupt (sometimes with no real need to) before she gets the point? Laughing

See, in s1-s2...and somewhat in s3 I guess, it was more case-centered. It just feels like in an effort to make the show more about their relationship but not actually cave to said 'ship they've almost made her more...clueless? Oblivious? I have no idea, but it definitely feels like Brennan of s1 would've been able to tell. IMO anyway.

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Post by joybrennan on Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:41 am

bones fan 99 wrote:
MoonlightGardenias wrote:My thing is that, yeah I'd obviously love to see BB exploring the romantic aspect of their lives together, all the while learning to balance personal with professional. I believe that of done right, it could be not only worth it but pretty good. I actually didn't mind the majority of s5--and admittedly, I didn't mind most of post-100th fallout simply because I knew it was coming--but that being said, I also know that we're running out of time.

One of the issues here is that while the chemistry and "These two will eventually get together and make cute babies" attitude has always been around since day one, we haven't always been hit over the head with the obviousness of that fact. Back in the s1-s2 days I don't know if I would have bought Booth's whole "I knew. Right from the beginning." line simply because while he was obviously into her at times, it didn't become obvious until some of the more legendary Booth speeches and acts in s3 onward. You know, the DitS speech, the Christmas tree, sacrificing her to the court because it would make her happy and save her father, etc.

I think that if they continue with how blatant and strong the feelings are, lying just under the surface, it's all gotta come to a head soon. Otherwise, what's the point in rubbing it in all our faces?


All just how we take things casue I totally by the "I knew right from the begining"

Marathoning the episodes starting at 100 then 1-106 including a re-watch of the 100. I can place those Booth not seeming into Brennan episodes as either being crime episode focused shows (not entirely bad in my opinion) or the fact that if I was booth left standing in the rain and then slapped on the face and left for a year ... I'd be a little pissed and unimpressed.. you can have a feeling that overcomes you without listening to it.
I believe that Booth knew she was the one when he was left standing in the rain compossed himself after slapping etc and spent seasons 1-4 falling in love with Brennan season trying to come to terms with it (hence the speeches evloving as time goes on). The time post finale I think has been dealing with the fallout of trying to move it forward (taking the gamble and asking although not doing as much as many feel he should have...)and failing scrambling with the trying to move on (yes we all feel differently about that too)


See - I don't think Booth knew any such thing - I think they had alot of chemistry, and alot of tequila. His exact words were, "because I think this is going somewhere." Not, "because I hope it's going somewhere," "or because I think you're the one." or, "because I want this to go somewhere." The phrase is actually passive. BRENNAN made that move - not Booth. He was basically going along with what SHE started.

Assuming Booth felt played - yeah, he might of. She got him hot and bothered and then left because they'd been drinking too much. WTF? He might have been pissed off, but he certainly didn't act like it when he walked in the next day. He walked in like NOTHING HAPPENED and was glad he and Brennan would still be working together. If he thought Brennan was the one at that point, why would he want the first time they get together to be when half-drunk on tequila? And if she was the one, wouldn't you expect some kind of discussion from him about when they COULD get together WITHOUT the tequila? Doesn't happen.

From Brennan's perspective, all the stuff he said the night before was the tequila talking. Who says they think a relationship is going somewhere and then the next day derails it? He approached her for work, and put work before the possibility of them getting together romantically. He never brings up that night, and Brennan thus feels all he wanted was that one night fling - and if that was all SHE wanted, tequila wouldn't have been a problem. She slaps Booth out of UST - the unspoken issues are what corrupt the working relationship. Just had to add that in, because, IMO, I think that the unspoken feelings and misunderstanding from that first case STILL effect B&B's relationship now.



Yes HH could just be throwing road blocks but I still can see that sometimes these things do take time (yess I know we all want it now and are running out of patience with it) I still see the episodes as working togther albiet some are weaker than others I've said it before and I'll say it again. I do believe they'll get together I hope most will still be watching but it's really up to an individuals taste.
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Post by lancelot on Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:30 am

I might be alone in this but I think a lot of the playing around they've done with their relationship in the last couple of seasons - mostly season 5 has taken a toll on Booth's character. I don't find him as appealing or interesting as I once did. The final straw for me was when Brennan dated his boss after he asked her twice not to and by the end of the episode his was perfectly fine with it (or seemed to be). It just seemed so out of character with the Booth of the other seasons. I really wish they would bring a bit of the old Booth back going forward.

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