Bones May Need To Bring More To The Table

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The TV Addict.com says that to keep up with The Big Bang Theory, Bones is going to have to bring more to the table than a Jersey Shore episode. Maybe good news for shippers?

I agree. I expect the ratings to be high for the premier, but I expect a significant drop in the 4 episode after. The cases simply aren't compelling enough and the relationship drama sure won't keep the average viewer interested. Not up against BBT. It will be interesting to see what happens towards the end of the season. I believe the sniper arc will bring some back, but that may be too little too late.
Hart and co are taking a HUGE risk with this Hannah crap right now. Maybe it will pay off for him, maybe it won't.

I also don't think it's likely to attract new viewers which could be a substantial problem as well.

I don't think the SO storyline is the only problem with the show. The cases, stories, and character interactions have decline since HH decided to focus solely on the will they / wont they storyline. The writing has gone more for the quick gag and childish humor than for witty and intelligent dialogue. Hanson believes, and we even had an episode about this, that people only care about BB and everything else is unimportant. Unfortunately, people do care especially when he keeps postponing BB's relationship.

I agree that there has been a real disconnect between the agonizing will they/won't they and what's going on in the rest of the episode. People aren't paying any attention to the cases waiting for the damn show to get to the B&B scenes. So it really doesn't matter how well written the cases are -- and they have been exceptionally poor since The Bones on the Blue Line -- no one is going to be interested while B&B are playing As The World Turns -- oh, wasn't that canceled? Maybe a lesson there.

I agree he needs to bring more to the table. He needs to bring B and B to the table...on the table..under the table...all over the table...ehem...oh...I digress!!!

I think that the while Serial Killer scenario arc is going to be good, and I hope it involves Hannah so I can somehow accept that there is actually a reason beyond stalling for her to have even been brought in , in the first place.

I thought that when we first started hearing about the serial killer, they said...someone close to the team would fall victim to the new nemises in the premier...now I hear everyone talking about it being toward the end of the season that this person is introduced. It think this is a big mistake, because they reaLLY NEED TO START OFF WITH A BANG... and if that BANG can't be B&B then it needs to be a new arch nemises!

There jsut needs to be more...B&B matter very much to me...but there needs to be more of everything! Like it used to have...that indefinable magic that used to draw us to every episode and keep us panting for more.

The show used to have balance between B&B and the cases and the rest of the cast. But Hart moved the B&B relationship to the center of the action and then let it spin there unbalancing the entire show. With the intro of Hannah, he's obviously not planning on moving the B&B thing away from the center and to be fair, at this point, he really has given himself no choice. But neither -- this isn't Inception -- can he keep it spinning like it is for the next three years, should the show survive that long.

He really has to resolve the relationship, something he seems to think will end the show, in order to bring the balance back. Cable t.v. has proven decisively that shows can get couples together and still roar on -- The Closer, Chuck, Burn Notice -- to name but three. Hart needs to trust his show, his writers and his viewers more. If he thinks that B&B are the only reason people watch and he keeps spinning it out and spinning it out, the whole structure is going to snap and viewers will leave for other shows. The new 'Under Covers' on NBC looks like it will be good and the leads are a couple.

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The TV Addict.com says that to keep up with The Big Bang Theory, Bones is going to have to bring more to the table than a Jersey Shore episode. Maybe good news for shippers?

And yet three days later, they post an article saying Bones will likely win the timeslot.

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Anyway, I'm not too worried. At worst, Bones will rank second place after BBT which is no worse than what they ranked against Survivor last season. And there's no way the stuff NBC, ABC, and certainly not the CW have in that time slot can beat them.

elyon wrote:
He really has to resolve the relationship, something he seems to think will end the show, in order to bring the balance back. Cable t.v. has proven decisively that shows can get couples together and still roar on -- The Closer, Chuck, Burn Notice -- to name but three. Hart needs to trust his show, his writers and his viewers more. If he thinks that B&B are the only reason people watch and he keeps spinning it out and spinning it out, the whole structure is going to snap and viewers will leave for other shows. The new 'Under Covers' on NBC looks like it will be good and the leads are a couple.

Actually people won't "leave" for those other shows. They can't. Those other shows are not in direct competition with Bones. They don't share the same time slot or day, which means people can just as easily watch both shows.

I believe Elyon said "people will leave for other shows" .. not those other shows.

Unfortunately that is a very real possibility! Bones is on very shaky ground this year. It's off balance...it's searching for it's identity...it's in stall and reset mode...it's got off screen actor difficulties...and it's just struggling! Way more popular shows than this have taken sudden nose dives because of similiar problems.

I for one hope they get it together and get it back on track...but until they realize and admit they've got a problem, they're not going to fix it. Now I realize that they are not going to say they have a problem, but I hope they do realize it.

I just watched an old re-run of Mummy in the Maze...and it was just so good. Lots of fun , cute, sexy B&B moments as well as witty dialogue and a really good plot and storyline that was front and center to the episode. It didn't matter whether B&B went further, they flirted and teased and we got plenty of charm smile, and cocky. I miss this. Get it together Hart and Co.

We criticize to help, not to hurt the show! Take what's being said and listen...becuase head in the sand isn't going to get you where you want to go.

Well I think the problem here is, as Momma and Eylon (among others) have said, is balance. The show used to be about solving the crime and the character interaction grew out of that. Since S4 it's been more and more about Booth and Brennan, and to some degree the squints, and less about the case work.

In fact with the introduction of the squintory approach last season, less than half of each show is dedicated to the actual case work now. A perfect example of how bad this has gotten? Beginning In The End - that episode was divided almost evenly between the case, Booth and Brennan's dilemma, and the Squintory (also known as "Sweets and Hodgins big adventure"). Sure, a lot of folks around here loved that episode, but the truth is the case was absolutely forgetable and the Squintory took up too much time on its own. I'd have rather had their last case together to be one that they executed on flawlessly, not one where they basically phoned the work in. *yeesh*

Hell, if we can't have B&B together, can we at least have decent criminal cases?

RM

THX1138 wrote:Well I think the problem here is, as Momma and Eylon (among others) have said, is balance. The show used to be about solving the crime and the character interaction grew out of that. Since S4 it's been more and more about Booth and Brennan, and to some degree the squints, and less about the case work.

In fact with the introduction of the squintory approach last season, less than half of each show is dedicated to the actual case work now. A perfect example of how bad this has gotten? Beginning In The End - that episode was divided almost evenly between the case, Booth and Brennan's dilemma, and the Squintory (also known as "Sweets and Hodgins big adventure"). Sure, a lot of folks around here loved that episode, but the truth is the case was absolutely forgetable and the Squintory took up too much time on its own. I'd have rather had their last case together to be one that they executed on flawlessly, not one where they basically phoned the work in. *yeesh*

Hell, if we can't have B&B together, can we at least have decent criminal cases?

RM

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mommahurley wrote:I believe Elyon said "people will leave for other shows" .. not those other shows.

Unfortunately that is a very real possibility! Bones is on very shaky ground this year. It's off balance...it's searching for it's identity...it's in stall and reset mode...it's got off screen actor difficulties...and it's just struggling! Way more popular shows than this have taken sudden nose dives because of similiar problems.

If it survived the fallout of the Season 4 Dream-Coma finale, then it will survive this.

Personally, I'm more worried about what's going to happen to Fringe (which I'm not even that big a fan of) than Bones this year.

And as for those "other shows" - the ones that will be in direct competition with Bones, - with the exception of BBT, the Thursday competition is either A) pretty lousy or B) being shown on a network that no one watches (CW).

The Big Bang Theory is the major competetion this year. Which was one of my major complaints about CBS moving it, cause BBT is gonna lose viewers and so probably will Bones.

Let's just say the CW may be getting it's big break this year. Last year the fallout from the coma dream was pretty much over and the buzz was B&B getting to explore their relationship - forward motion. HH had already said he probably should have made the ending a bit clearer. This year, it's not just the finale - the fallout is.from.the 100th through the finale, minus the gravedigger trial. He's going into a storyline that even the optimistic fans don't like and are optimistically hoping will end quickly. Meanwhile, the remote and DVR make it easy to channel surf. It seems to me that conditions are perfect for a network to jump in and get some notice.