Is There a Pro-Hannah Media Push?
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Maybe they just really like the actress and they are embarassed that their fans are trashing her so much?
It could be as simple as that? And they know that the ultimate effect of the storyline is to open up communication and self realization in Brennan, and ultimately bring them closer together.
I mean really at this point...it wouldn't even make sense if they just fell together, after what's been said and done even last season. So there's still some ground to cover miles to go to get to the place where it makes sense for them to declare their ultimate intention of being togeether.
Hanah is going to be a catalyst... and we should at least try to get behind that.
It could be as simple as that? And they know that the ultimate effect of the storyline is to open up communication and self realization in Brennan, and ultimately bring them closer together.
I mean really at this point...it wouldn't even make sense if they just fell together, after what's been said and done even last season. So there's still some ground to cover miles to go to get to the place where it makes sense for them to declare their ultimate intention of being togeether.
Hanah is going to be a catalyst... and we should at least try to get behind that.
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This would all be well and good if I hadn't listened to DB's interview last week on Regis where he said that people only watch the show to see the will they/won't they and that if they ever did, it would end the show. If that's how he really feels and the writers agree (which I have no way of knowing) then game over, folks.
And this whole idea of 'they will get closer together'. How can Booth get closer than 'I'll love you for 50 years'? And Brennan would probably have to have someone define 'closer' to her and then put it in context as an adverb and not a noun. I can see I'm already losing my carefree two weeks away from Bones attitude.
And this whole idea of 'they will get closer together'. How can Booth get closer than 'I'll love you for 50 years'? And Brennan would probably have to have someone define 'closer' to her and then put it in context as an adverb and not a noun. I can see I'm already losing my carefree two weeks away from Bones attitude.
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I haven't heard fans trash the ACTRESS - at least not on the Aby. Most of the references TPTB make aren't about liking the actress. It's about liking the character. I'm sure she'll be written as a lovely "person." It doesn't change her from being a stop-gap plot device in a story direction I find asinine. Hence, I don't care about the character and I'm just sitting out the show until it runs its course. That is my choice. l think we are all free to like or not like what we hear about or see and choose to react as we see fit.
I know I've said this before, but reading posts saying that everyone should just stop complaining and try to get behind a storyline I find sad and stupid makes me feel like I need to defend my choice. I don't tell people who want to watch that they shouldn't. I'm sad about the way HH is writing his story, because I've loved it for a long time. However, I've seen choices made and things said and done that I don't like. It's like I was on a bus to Miami, but gradually noticed it being colder out at rest stops and started seeing signs saying how many more miles to Canada. That's my experience - this no longer seems to be the trip I signed up for. So, yeah, I'm concerned and thinking about getting off the bus completely because the bus driver keeps saying "we're almost there."
However, the bus, in all likelyhood will eventually reach Miami - even if the route makes no sense. Hence, I'm taking a nap as we pull out of this rest stop. I'll decide what to do at the next one - somewhere around Thanksgiving or Christmas.
I know I've said this before, but reading posts saying that everyone should just stop complaining and try to get behind a storyline I find sad and stupid makes me feel like I need to defend my choice. I don't tell people who want to watch that they shouldn't. I'm sad about the way HH is writing his story, because I've loved it for a long time. However, I've seen choices made and things said and done that I don't like. It's like I was on a bus to Miami, but gradually noticed it being colder out at rest stops and started seeing signs saying how many more miles to Canada. That's my experience - this no longer seems to be the trip I signed up for. So, yeah, I'm concerned and thinking about getting off the bus completely because the bus driver keeps saying "we're almost there."
However, the bus, in all likelyhood will eventually reach Miami - even if the route makes no sense. Hence, I'm taking a nap as we pull out of this rest stop. I'll decide what to do at the next one - somewhere around Thanksgiving or Christmas.

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Just in time for turkey! And with Bones that could be taken so many ways.
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Joy you do not need to defend your choices, you have made your reasons blatently clear, and they are understandable. I think there may be a little bit a circular discussion here, because I have felt pressure about my choice to watch, which I then feel like I have to defend. Let's all agree that our decisions are our own and we shouldn't feel the need to defend those choices once our positions are shared.
Also just to reference the analogy, Canada is infinitely more preferable to some than Miami is.... but if you were expecting Miami, it'd be a huge disappointment.
Also just to reference the analogy, Canada is infinitely more preferable to some than Miami is.... but if you were expecting Miami, it'd be a huge disappointment.

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joybrennan wrote:recoveringbonesaddict wrote:What intense competition?
Other than the BBT, the shows are the same as last year. BBT and Survivor's ratings are about the same. The new show, My Generation, won't last.
I think there is more competition than you'd think. TPTB are likely going to be looking at the ratings of the first few episodes of Bones - like 1-7 - before making a decision about moving time slots, etc. My Generation is by a former Bones writer who wrote eps for seasons 1-2 (doesn't even matter which ones - they were ALL good) and lately it's been getting some buzz - enough that people might tune in to give it a chance. Vampire Diaries is pretty much where Bones was going into season three, a small, loyal, intense fan base that has been growing in popularity with A LOT of buzz. All I'm going to say is this - Twilight, tweens, and remember how you felt about Buffy the Vampire Slayer.Project Runway is going to overlap the first few episodes as well. Not only is BBT competition, but Thirty Rock is at 8:30 on NBC. Apparently Community on NBC is also liked.
Point being, there is ALOT of competition this year. Last year everyone was worried about Flash Forward, but COMMUNITY which also premiered in that time slot, made it to a second season. It's not that any ONE of these shows could knock out Bones. It's that there's enough going on to siphon off Bones' numbers - especially when there's a negative buzz about your shows' story direction and even regular fans are talking about tuning into something else. Bones is AWARE that people are not happy; it's being mentioned in interviews all over the place. One does not make a statement about internet fans being unimportant - if they they don't hold some importance. Basically, by having questions asked addressing the negativity, it gives the Bones people a chance to refute the things being said, play it down, and do damage control. Damage control such as this new thing about playing up how the audience is "going to LOVE" Raghag. Basic advertising idea - IF YOU SAY IT ENOUGH, PEOPLE WILL START TO BELIEVE IT.![]()
IMO they are WORRIED. If the buzz about the show was positive anticipation, they would be less worried, because their core audience would be solid. Now, they don't seem to be sure of that - and they shouldn't be. Maybe they DID look at Nielsens recently and after doing some re-evaluating -. It's like they are beginning to wonder if this 100th episode/SO idea was such a good idea.
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I think you're reading way, way, way, way, way too much into this. The only competition I would worry about is BBT and maybe the new Shatner show.
Also, the ratings after the 100the episode were stable if not fine. Look them up on wikipedia if you have to.

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@ evilmonkey - I didn't say they weren't stable. I also don't have to goto Wikipedia - season five ratings are a sticky near the top of the spoiler board. Also, you are more than entitled to disagree with me, I just posted my thoughts about what's been going on. However, I will say that, in all likelyhood television executives who deal with programming are looking at even more variables than I've mentioned. 

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From the recent clips and interviews it looks as if the whole push to promote the Hannah story arc as the shining light at the beginning of the season has now been flipped to a push about how she leaves and what happens afterward. Nathan's remarks about Booth topedoing the relationship because of unresolved feelings for Brennan and Hart's interview about how Hannah is perfect but not Brennan are now putting the emphasis on post-Hannah which I find interesting.
I think they are getting increasingly nervous about ratings and that the reason so many other networks have piled it on Thursday nights at 8:00 is that like the good piranhas they are, they smell blood in the water.
I think they are getting increasingly nervous about ratings and that the reason so many other networks have piled it on Thursday nights at 8:00 is that like the good piranhas they are, they smell blood in the water.
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elyon wrote:From the recent clips and interviews it looks as if the whole push to promote the Hannah story arc as the shining light at the beginning of the season has now been flipped to a push about how she leaves and what happens afterward. Nathan's remarks about Booth topedoing the relationship because of unresolved feelings for Brennan and Hart's interview about how Hannah is perfect but not Brennan are now putting the emphasis on post-Hannah which I find interesting.
I think they are getting increasingly nervous about ratings and that the reason so many other networks have piled it on Thursday nights at 8:00 is that like the good piranhas they are, they smell blood in the water.
Which means that hopefully soon we will get some hints about Hannah being on her way out.

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Apart from the bit about someone have a minor operation in the sides for episode 5 and Hannah having a story to finish, there has been almost nothing about the BBH triangle since the sides for episode 3. Unless they shift gears significantly, my take is that Hannah should be gone by episode 10 which is more or less half way through the season.
According to my calculations, the sides for episode 10 should be up October 21st, exactly a month from tomorrow. Something must appear in the sides for the next three episodes that gives us a hint of what's going on on the BBH front and in those three episodes should be the Brennan-centric one. Of course they change things right up to the last minute but keeping H in or out is so big that has to be planned in advance.
According to my calculations, the sides for episode 10 should be up October 21st, exactly a month from tomorrow. Something must appear in the sides for the next three episodes that gives us a hint of what's going on on the BBH front and in those three episodes should be the Brennan-centric one. Of course they change things right up to the last minute but keeping H in or out is so big that has to be planned in advance.
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elyon wrote:From the recent clips and interviews it looks as if the whole push to promote the Hannah story arc as the shining light at the beginning of the season has now been flipped to a push about how she leaves and what happens afterward. Nathan's remarks about Booth topedoing the relationship because of unresolved feelings for Brennan and Hart's interview about how Hannah is perfect but not Brennan are now putting the emphasis on post-Hannah which I find interesting.
I think they are getting increasingly nervous about ratings and that the reason so many other networks have piled it on Thursday nights at 8:00 is that like the good piranhas they are, they smell blood in the water.
I do agree with this. The preview review is great -love having it and what I read - but I did notice that they made a point of saying that Raghag wasn't in it- just her picture and she is talked about. It was definitely written to pull in the internet crowd.

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Also the bloggers who are reviewing Bones, and there have been a dozen tweets from different ones, depend on the goodwill of the producers to get interviews. And their jobs depend on those interviews. Most of them bend over backward to be positive about the show, all the shows, to the point where I read one review that didn't like the Bones finale but when questioned on camera by the producer claimed they just loved it. I'm not saying they're dishonest just overly positive.
If you take the Bones peoples' interviews with a grain of salt, I would say take the on-line reviews that way as well. None of them have the power that someone like the New York Times t.v. critic has, to say in print, 'hey, this show stinks' and still keep on writing and still getting access to that show.
If you take the Bones peoples' interviews with a grain of salt, I would say take the on-line reviews that way as well. None of them have the power that someone like the New York Times t.v. critic has, to say in print, 'hey, this show stinks' and still keep on writing and still getting access to that show.
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Then again, perhaps the reviewer liked the show and what they said was exactly what they thought with no ulterior motives.
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Then why would they write the opposite a few weeks before?
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